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silentwarrior
09-07-2004, 11:09 PM
hello everyone...

its been some time i didnt chop...and someone asked me to chop this picture...so i came up with white rx8...hope looks good...mostly brushed

ORIGINAL
http://img73.exs.cx/img73/2148/rx8.jpg

TUNED
HTTP://www.conceptcarz.com/imgxra/forum/rx8%205.jpg

dreamv2.0
09-07-2004, 11:14 PM
nice and clean i like

jacob
09-07-2004, 11:26 PM
looks nice, but a few things that look like they stick out IMO
hoodscoope,shadow, side vent, deepdish in the front rim, theres more, but im tired so.. ill jus say, really nice man

silentwarrior
09-07-2004, 11:32 PM
front rim is totally copy paste, as it was...no angles changed :unsure:

what's wrong with shadow? and hood scoop? i can understand about side vent since everyone has diff way of looking at vents..that's why i never comment on others' vent work

MRWILDE
09-07-2004, 11:54 PM
very nicely done. I like the spoiler.

suprachopper1128
09-08-2004, 12:11 AM
did you brush that front? 'cause if you did.........wow. very nice chop man. love it.

beermonkey
09-08-2004, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by silentwarrior@Sep 7 2004, 10:32 PM
front rim is totally copy paste, as it was...no angles changed :unsure:

what's wrong with shadow? and hood scoop? i can understand about side vent since everyone has diff way of looking at vents..that's why i never comment on others' vent work
the roof scoop is a tad off and the shadow looks too black but no big faults...

very good job! espacialy the front bumper

brian_is_metal
09-08-2004, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by suprachopper1128@Sep 7 2004, 11:11 PM
did you brush that front?
Ya, that's what I was wondering too.

Great chop brother, as always!

TwisTa
09-08-2004, 08:45 AM
very nice...great bg change.....good work :D

mist3r Lin
09-08-2004, 10:55 AM
Looks like a toy car, but that's incredible.
How do people do decals so well?

silentwarrior
09-08-2004, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by brian_is_metal+Sep 8 2004, 02:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brian_is_metal @ Sep 8 2004, 02:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-suprachopper1128@Sep 7 2004, 11:11 PM
did you brush that front?
Ya, that&#39;s what I was wondering too.

Great chop brother, as always&#33; [/b][/quote]
yes bodykits are brushed

i&#39;m glad you all liked it...next time i&#39;ll try improving

Florian Wunsch
09-08-2004, 12:10 PM
The hole bodykit is brushed??? OMG, thats freakin&#39; out&#33; Damn great - How long do you chop now? I thougt it was copied and pasted in from an original car :o :huh:

Keep it on - You should make a tutorial on such a bumper like that - Step by step :lol:

Tony Riley
09-08-2004, 12:22 PM
I think its dope&#33; It has its faults but it is really nice...Im really feelin the f.bumper. The only thing that erks me is that the car looks like its kinda floating ***I emphasize "kinda".

brasher
09-09-2004, 02:34 AM
I really like it mate, the kit is really nice, but doesnt quite fit the front wheel well.

Bakin' Soda
09-12-2004, 12:52 AM
whoa that nice... how did you get the decals on so nice

macrulz_2
09-12-2004, 02:11 AM
good chop silent warrior. the only things that bother me are...the headlights (don&#39;t like the style), and the roof scoop should be a bit more to the left. great chop overall. good brushin on the kits and spoiler it looks pretty realistic. the reflections look tops aswell. good work...keep it up. ;)

ckg690
09-12-2004, 12:27 PM
:D i like it&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; decals look really cool

silentwarrior
09-12-2004, 09:50 PM
thank you very much people...after many of you saying about roof scoop and rims i think i would edit this picture...will show you updated one soon

thanks again

blazinking
09-12-2004, 09:54 PM
awsome job i love everythin on the rx8 but the rims are a tad blurry alla nd all sweet ride

silentwarrior
09-15-2004, 10:45 AM
**UPDATED**

changed wheels...better?

http://www.conceptcarz.com/imgxra/forum/rx8%205%20copy.jpg

Tony Riley
09-15-2004, 11:43 AM
The rims are much better this time around.

tarek2kool
09-15-2004, 12:52 PM
gold rims would look muuuuuuuch better

darkrider
09-15-2004, 05:42 PM
i fuccin love it
great work
cant wait ta c the next chop from u

silentwarrior
09-15-2004, 10:49 PM
thanks a lot...but my next work would take some time since i&#39;m going back to native place on satureday...will be back after 4 months...i&#39;ll try chopping in india though...but after couple of weeks

Tony Riley
09-15-2004, 10:53 PM
Be safe in India bra&#39;, and be sure to post, while you&#39;re there if you are able. :D
Cheers.

:llrac3r
09-15-2004, 10:56 PM
It&#39;s a nice chop and all but the bodykit (front bumper and sideskirt) is definately not airbrushed so you might wanna take that back ;)

But it really does look pretty nice

suprachopper1128
09-15-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by :llrac3r@Sep 15 2004, 08:56 PM
It&#39;s a nice chop and all but the bodykit (front bumper and sideskirt) is definately not airbrushed so you might wanna take that back ;)
ummmmmmmm....... what? you don&#39;t think s.w. airbrushed that? unless you can provide some really convincing evidence to the contrary, i think you should take that back. s.w. is a very good airbrusher, and i don&#39;t think you should question whether he did it or not.

beermonkey
09-16-2004, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by suprachopper1128+Sep 15 2004, 10:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (suprachopper1128 @ Sep 15 2004, 10:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-:llrac3r@Sep 15 2004, 08:56 PM
It&#39;s a nice chop and all but the bodykit (front bumper and sideskirt) is definately not airbrushed so you might wanna take that back ;)
ummmmmmmm....... what? you don&#39;t think s.w. airbrushed that? unless you can provide some really convincing evidence to the contrary, i think you should take that back. s.w. is a very good airbrusher, and i don&#39;t think you should question whether he did it or not. [/b][/quote]
i agree with supra..
(and i think you could see this is a compliment for SW :lol: )

silentwarrior
09-16-2004, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by :llrac3r@Sep 15 2004, 09:56 PM
It&#39;s a nice chop and all but the bodykit (front bumper and sideskirt) is definately not airbrushed so you might wanna take that back ;)

But it really does look pretty nice
whoa whoa whoa whoa...are you on drugs? i&#39;ve spent sme real time in brushing these things...i&#39;m so unlucky that i never get kits to just copy paste and adjust...i always HAVE to work with brushing...i wish i didnt have to brush...of course i didnt brush stickers, canards and air thingy...this is what i made before

bumper is brushed, not lights and air thing
HTTP://www.conceptcarz.com/imgxra/forum/rx8%201.jpg

then change in plan..."we" dont just stick to one...we sometimes keep changing till good one sets well
HTTP://www.conceptcarz.com/imgxra/forum/rx8%202.jpg

see bumper too much tilted near wheel but then i took it down

HTTP://www.conceptcarz.com/imgxra/forum/rx8%203.jpg

i spend some real efforts chopping cars unlike you...how many chops you have anyways? i saw them and all you&#39;ve done is make vents in 2 chops...stickers to one and chromed one...may be you&#39;r new but come on, if you dont know then dont underestimate anyone...peace&#33;&#33;

i guess this guy would say rick, brasher, glacius, iac, ruig, all of us are not brushers....we just copy paste, may be cause brushing is just not possible for him?

and thanks beermonkey and supra

beermonkey
09-16-2004, 08:19 AM
your very welcome

suprachopper1128
09-16-2004, 09:01 AM
yeah, no prob. ;)

:llrac3r
09-16-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by silentwarrior+Sep 16 2004, 06:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (silentwarrior &#064; Sep 16 2004, 06:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-:llrac3r@Sep 15 2004, 09:56 PM
It&#39;s a nice chop and all but the bodykit (front bumper and sideskirt) is definately not airbrushed so you might wanna take that back ;)

But it really does look pretty nice

whoa whoa whoa whoa...are you on drugs? i&#39;ve spent sme real time in brushing these things...i&#39;m so unlucky that i never get kits to just copy paste and adjust...i always HAVE to work with brushing...i wish i didnt have to brush...of course i didnt brush stickers, canards and air thingy...this is what i made before

bumper is brushed, not lights and air thing

i guess this guy would say rick, brasher, glacius, iac, ruig, all of us are not brushers....we just copy paste, may be cause brushing is just not possible for him?
[/b][/quote]
http://www.njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10170/carandmodelS14point5.jpg

Wow then you must be pissed that this real life S14.5 Silvia stole your design

I can&#39;t believe you would compare yourself to people like IAC or any of the other names you mentioned... what a joke. I feel bad for the guys sticking up for you

beermonkey
09-16-2004, 12:55 PM
hmm that gives the story a twist... :unsure:
cause all the shadows and stuff match..

Tony Riley
09-16-2004, 01:13 PM
Oh dear...someone has some explaining to do...

brian_is_metal
09-16-2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by :llrac3r@Sep 16 2004, 11:13 AM
Wow then you must be pissed that this real life S14.5 Silvia stole your design

I can&#39;t believe you would compare yourself to people like IAC or any of the other names you mentioned... what a joke. I feel bad for the guys sticking up for you
Ouch...owned. That really sucks. SW, I really dig your work. No doubt, you&#39;re an awesome chopper. But man...you don&#39;t gotta lie to kick it. <_<

suprachopper1128
09-16-2004, 05:11 PM
huhh........... very interesting. this kinda puts into question his other works also........ i hope it&#39;s not the same with your others-that would be very disappointing.

tarek2kool
09-16-2004, 05:16 PM
ouch damn you see i never really thought that these were brushed like i had something in my mind saying it wasnt but then somehow i actually believed it was brushed but now dayum

silentwarrior
09-16-2004, 05:23 PM
whoa ...wait again...that&#39;s very right i got it from there....and i brushed it upon it...to get rid of other shines and reflection to match my chop...that&#39;s how you do it...and i learnt this from IAC himself...so no wonder why i wont hesitate comparing myself a bit with great IAC...its not at all easy or possible to make your own such designed bumper...its just like making toons to be simple...other small stuffs like fenders and arches can be brushed but not such designed bodykits...and brushing over this isnt easy...its more presize than you make toons...and to be serious, even cars made in 3d render programs are made by same...they get such picture and then make copy stuff over that picture and make their own...so there isnt anything i&#39;ve done wrong..not at all

Tony Riley
09-16-2004, 07:24 PM
You&#39;re right you haven&#39;t done anything wrong, however what you said was very misleading. When you say "brushed", people think you made it from scratch. Next time be more careful with what you say.

brian_is_metal
09-16-2004, 09:03 PM
When I hear "bodykit is all brushed" I think you created it with the line tool...not copy/paste then fix the little things. If that&#39;s the case, every chop I&#39;ve ever done was brushed ;)

d n L.
09-16-2004, 09:18 PM
who cares if he copy and pasted it looks nice good job.

SuhaiL
09-16-2004, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by d n L.@Sep 16 2004, 09:18 PM
who cares if he copy and pasted it looks nice good job.
shut up 7 up lololllllllllllhaha

brian_is_metal
09-16-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by d-block+Sep 16 2004, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (d-block @ Sep 16 2004, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-d n L.@Sep 16 2004, 09:18 PM
who cares if he copy and pasted it looks nice good job.
shut up 7 up lololllllllllllhaha [/b][/quote]
OMG that was great&#33; :lol:

The Fighting Panda Man
09-16-2004, 09:54 PM
heheh, ^^^^

suprachopper1128
09-16-2004, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by d n L.@Sep 16 2004, 07:18 PM
who cares if he copy and pasted it looks nice good job.
the point is he said it was all brushed, but in actuality he rebrushed a few parts on the c&p parts. granted, it&#39;s an awesome looking chop, but this whole deal kinda detracts from it.

silentwarrior
09-16-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by brian_is_metal@Sep 16 2004, 08:03 PM
When I hear "bodykit is all brushed" I think you created it with the line tool...not copy/paste then fix the little things. If that&#39;s the case, every chop I&#39;ve ever done was brushed ;)
i dont know if you can say that or no...but when you just brush everything from scratch, its "totally brushed" which would look toony if you see carefully(i dont know of any chops which are started from scratch)...in my first post itself i said its mostly brushed...and then someone asked its totally brushed? and i said no only bodykits are brushed...its removing deffects and making total replica by brushing over it...but brushing such things isnt exactly "fixing" it...cause its too hassel pointing out deffects and then fix the whole damn thing..i stead we totally make replica by brushing over...lining and then brushing would make it look toony as even stupid would know that...hope you&#39;r getting my meanings

The Fighting Panda Man
09-17-2004, 01:04 AM
ah, a technicallity

beermonkey
09-17-2004, 01:14 AM
well i know one thing everything I brush i make from scratch..
bet hey... the chop is still awesome :D

SuhaiL
09-17-2004, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by The Fighting Panda Man@Sep 17 2004, 01:04 AM
ah, a technicallity
nice observation TFPM lol

so sw you basiclly copied and pasted the front bumper... BUT then
brushed over it? ;)

silentwarrior
09-17-2004, 02:39 AM
ummm mostly yes and that&#39;s the reason it looks more rendered as someone asked if its made using 3d rendered programs than simply "original"...it would look totally diff if it was JUST compy paste....you HAVE to work on it to make it look real and better, no kidding

and see beermonkey, that&#39;s the reason your chops look more toony than real...they&#39;r awsome tries no doubt...but to be honest, i know, even you might be thinking that something&#39;s missing in your chops, that reflections and shadows that normal human brains cant think of...that&#39;s why i never reply to people&#39;s topic when they say its brushed from scratch cause i dont like people getting hurt when i speak truth...totally brushed always look toony and "something missing" stuffs...so actually i would advice you to find cool bumpers and stuffs instead of making them from scratch...

if you want to see my complete brushed project then my alfaromeo is complete brushed but rims...this was my first brushing...and may be this is when i started serious "brushing" cause brushing looked more real than copy paste

HTTP://www.conceptcarz.com/imgxra/forum/alfaromeo%20final%203.jpg

beermonkey
09-17-2004, 05:33 AM
i agree about the toonylook
but with practise you CAN make it look real

Hince
09-17-2004, 08:56 AM
hey bigrick...question for you...do you brush over existing bumpers and stuff? or do u totally brush frm scratch and add your reflections?

suprachopper1128
09-17-2004, 09:13 AM
i disagree with you on that whole toony thing, sw. you remember my nsx chop? that bk was completely from scratch, and so was the bodykit on my contest 22 chop, and my saab chop.

beermonkey
09-17-2004, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by suprachopper1128@Sep 17 2004, 08:13 AM
i disagree with you on that whole toony thing, sw. you remember my nsx chop? that bk was completely from scratch, and so was the bodykit on my contest 22 chop, and my saab chop.
thats exactly my point

silentwarrior
09-17-2004, 09:57 AM
anyways guys....great works... i&#39;m leaving for india tomorrow...so i wont be able to reply for some time...see you all soon...take care

suprachopper1128
09-17-2004, 11:06 AM
have a good trip, man. hope you have fun. ;)
when will you be back?

beermonkey
09-17-2004, 12:10 PM
good trip..
hope to see you back soon :)

tarek2kool
09-17-2004, 01:00 PM
theres nothing wrong with what he did i do that too sometimes when i brush i look at another picture for reference

Sha$XL
09-17-2004, 04:51 PM
okay guys listen when ppl say that something was airbrushed it means that you made the selections using the lasso or pen tool, and then brushed in different parts shadows and the like. by taking a part and merley airbrushing over it does NOT constitute an airbrushed part. making the selection by urself is half the battle, then brushing in shadows and all that to make it like the part bends or curves or leads into a vent is the second half. in SW&#39;s case both things were done for him, the selection of the kit was there, andd the lighting was there (he was able to see where all the shadows, dodgey pieces should go. so in a sense all that is is cut and paste.

maaaaaaannnnny people do this (especially here) but i won&#39;t name names. however if you are a quality airbrusher, its easy tell what parts were made from sctrach, and what parts were merley "brushed over".

all brushed parts are somewhat toony, yet sometimes they can look perfectly real. Honest airbrushers like Glacius, Chopper621, Myself, and Joemomma dont lie about brushing parts, we can accept how good we really are (of course me n joe suck compared to the other 2, but thats another topic)

in short: dont lie about what you can or cant do, because it&#39;ll come out in the end. just accept how good you are at something, or work harder to improve

joemomma95
09-17-2004, 06:34 PM
Dude, that&#39;s scary to see my name next to chopper, glacius and even you sha&#036;xl....I&#39;m not up there with you guys, maybe someday but not currently.


And about the whole brushed thing...some people interpert &#39;brushed&#39; or &#39;brushing&#39; differently. Personally, I think brushing a part is doing it totally from scratch. Some people think brushing over an existing part is brushing. Neither one of us is wrong.

Now, the catch. If SW&#39;s bumper shows up in someone elses chop is that considered stealing? I think so, but what about everyone else? BUT, SW has to be able to prove it&#39;s his &#39;brushed&#39; bumper, if they use the original that SW brushed over then I&#39;d consider that not stealing because anyone can find that pic on the net(obviously)...

BTW, people need to be calm about this, if it gets ugly at any point the thread is closed..

silentwarrior
09-17-2004, 06:57 PM
well i never mind people using my chop parts even some are totally brushed...i&#39;ve never said or would never say anything to them...all people are trying to do is try making their work look better...specially to newbies..cause they have no idea how to brush or so ever so no probs...i know people who might&#39;ve worked a lot on stuffs might not like people using their work but well no one as smart as smarts

anyways...i dont know when would i be able to see you guys again...but soon enough...anyways..see you guys later...last time on net till i come next time

thanks for comments...liked sharing knowledge and ideas

:llrac3r
09-17-2004, 07:13 PM
BTW, people need to be calm about this, if it gets ugly at any point the thread is closed..

Yeah I couldn&#39;t agree more. I found this guy&#39;s initial response personally offensive which prompted me to post that picture from Carandmodel, but otherwise tried to stay out of it. None of this is really that important ;)

-illracer

rickysals
09-18-2004, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by Hince@Sep 17 2004, 07:56 AM
hey bigrick...question for you...do you brush over existing bumpers and stuff? or do u totally brush frm scratch and add your reflections?
Well... depends on what I need.

I never go into a chop, except the one i post below, saying "i&#39;m gonna brush everything&#33;" lol...i did it on the HSC just to see if my brush skills were any good.

I have a look or complete style I want to achieve with each chop, and I go and do it. I make some pieces from scratch, most of my skirts are completely 100% by me, then I do the lighting. The HONDA HSC below I did was 100 from scratch, and I don&#39;t think it&#39;s too toony. I got alot of good replies for it. As for the brushing over thing? It&#39;s open to interpretation... I do think it&#39;s a little less challenging, but the results still are amazing, as SW&#39;s white car is. Love this chop&#33;

Here&#39;s the HSC for your rememberance... 100% brushed except copied and pasted, then altered wheels.

http://www.pifiu.com/upload/uploads/052004/HSC1111.jpg

Hince
09-18-2004, 12:50 PM
rick your brushin skills are of the highest quality ive seen....its not toony at all...in fact it looks so real&#33; id love to learn some tips from you if that&#39;s ok..&#33;

SuhaiL
09-18-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Hince@Sep 18 2004, 12:50 PM
rick your brushin skills are of the highest quality ive seen....its not toony at all...in fact it looks so real&#33; id love to learn some tips from you if that&#39;s ok..&#33;
cough cough suck up cough cough... lol hehe :D

btw rick did u brush those headlights??

Hince
09-18-2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by d-block+Sep 18 2004, 11:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (d-block @ Sep 18 2004, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Hince@Sep 18 2004, 12:50 PM
rick your brushin skills are of the highest quality ive seen....its not toony at all...in fact it looks so real&#33; id love to learn some tips from you if that&#39;s ok..&#33;
cough cough suck up cough cough... lol hehe :P :D [/b][/quote]
ahh sharrap&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol:

brian_is_metal
09-18-2004, 01:08 PM
Rick owns at true brushing.

beermonkey
09-18-2004, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by brian_is_metal@Sep 18 2004, 12:08 PM
Rick owns at true brushing.
agreed

rickysals
09-18-2004, 02:31 PM
no no no..

Glacius is miles ahead of me... he is the king. I dunno about IAC&#39;s techniques, but his results are tops&#33;&#33;

I am ok, but I didn&#39;t post this up to show up SW... please not the reason why, just showing cuz some newer people may haven&#39;t seen what i was refering to.